Just make sure the stone is completely dry before you apply the Ager to it. The Telux is a topical varnish that will make the stone look polished. Also fiberglass can be used in between 2 pieces of granite glued together, to prevent the accidental release of any broken pieces in case something will damage them. We have other product ( not epoxy ) that is color stable: Crystal has a special ammine inside that reduce yellowing. Yes but is not an easy task. You can most certainly use Proseal for your honed carrara marble. Generally we recommend allowing Hydrex to dry at least 2-6 hours. The 5 requires a 5 snail lock adapter. There it slowly solidify and becomes the knife grade consistency we are all aware of. What is the solvent base in Ager and Tiger? At the bottom of the can it states polished granite. John, For best results, 400-500 rpm is recommended. Most importantly you will need a working environment with a temperature of at least 75 degrees F and very low relative humidity in the air (20% is recommended). This will make them prone to delamination if used to glue stone together. MEK tends to have a shorter shelf life then crystal itself. Epoxy glue is a more precise chemical reaction and adding a polyester substance might create a problem for achieving the best final results. Our Tenax Fixtop is a trowelable epoxy that will bond extremely strong to soapstone. This is just 2 examples of the logic behind resined material. 1) The Ager can be used on the Thassos marble window sill. I have a counter top surface of dense particle board with granite tiles on top. After application, ager or will need to be applied over the Tepox V it in order to drive the color deep into the stone for permanence. This is because the longer the glue remain liquid, the better the penetration will be with the substrate, thus the stronger the bond will be. Domo 10 is one of the strongest epoxy available on the market. Will ager or Ager Tiger penetrate a polished top? Daily cleaning product should not remove it. If any excess is left on the surface it will eventually glaze on top and would be very difficult to remove after curing. We have other products ( not epoxy ) that are color stable: What adhesive should I use in a shower application? Reapplying Ager Tiger will really depend on how much the the granite counter tops will be used. Epoxies could be made UV stable but with a very great price increase 300% or more. The reason why they look and feel different is in the way they are manufactured. There are times that a project is extremely urgent and product must be received ASAP. Also you will need some space to lay the slab down when waiting for the resin to cure. In an outdoor application use it along with Ager Tiger which is more suited in that environment. Colored Paste PigmentsUniversal dissolve better in knife grade epoxies. Tixo instead is made with a cold process, where it is extruded from the reactor and pushed into the can. Do Filiflex and Airflex brushes work on Marble? The best time to apply is when the pores of the stone are still open and the finish is past the grinding stage, just after the 400 grit is a good time to apply. These are the general features and functions of polyester and epoxy adhesives. The edge pieces wont adhere, but the rest do. It is almost a warm feeling when you touch the surface and gentle enough that a glass can be left on the surface withoutthe riskof tipping it over. Click on the videos link of our blog and you will find videos on Proseal. We always recommend using the 120 and 220 air flex brush at the end of the process to be able to clean up the surface from the rotation marks and leave a clean, uniform Matt finish. Tenax has more than 1 million dollars of inventory at all time in stock at all times and it should be easy to find the right sequence and install the abrasives on your machine in very little time. Can the Filiflex and Airflex be used on Automated machines? Hydrex is a very good sealer that Tenax recommends for granite. Ager Tiger may be more suited to these porous finishes. With excellent adhesion, polyester will provide a very strong bond for its intended purpose. The most common and readily available ones are the 14 cm Fickert style abrasives, the Frankfurt style abrasives, the Terzaggo rolls and the Cassani bricks for concrete polishing. There is no need to clean or rough up the surface. Apply the paste to the affected area of the stone. Can Ager be used on flamed, brushed, or honed stone? Do I have to seal the stone after applying Ager or Ager Tiger? All 3 types of rodding: white fiberglass, carbon fiber, or steel rods will greatly strengthen the counter top. We recommend to always use the Filiflex in the grit 36-46-60 and then use the Airflex to bring up the color and the shine if needed. The activator is in fact an accelerator and speeds up the curing process tremendously. Knife grade H is what is used in the majority of the rest of the world. The place I am buying the marble from wants to use this product and the label says it is for polished surfaces so Im concerned. Standard Ager will have a better absorption and penetration rate on highly polished surfaces where it would be difficult to have any sealer penetration at all. We have a variety of sealers that have been approved by the EC for food contact. Adhesive will bond to the rodding. This strictly comes down to preference and personal taste. Fiberglass mesh is used for different reasons. Simply, squeeze one end of the pouch to break the center seal that separates the A from the B and squeeze it all together and mix well for approximately 1 min. Then we recommend usingFiliflex36-46-60. Rinse clean after sufficient buffing to see results and repeat as necessary till a high polish is achieved. Crystalis a slow curing adhesive. No structural adhesive will be approved for particle board. We would recommend our Fixtop Epoxy. Do I need the snail-lock backer? Tenax has 4 Antique brushes that require a 4 snail lock adapter. Epoxies are VOC free but they are not UV stables. They are either in a special 2 plastic can kit (400 grams total amount) or in pouch kits (100 or 200 grams size). Drexy and Gear are 2 of the most common sealer already approved and with the seal on the can. I need to fill holes in travertine. Epoxies, however, are specifically designed to be structural adhesive. It will not change the color or hone of the stone. When filling or gluing travertine the buff color glue will blend with material perfectly . This change in gel and cure times allows flexibility in applications. i buffed by hand with a clean rag and used a buffer. It is designed to fill cracks as well as be a structural adhesive. Simply add the provided hardener that comes with the Travertine Filler, mix and spread into the holes in the travertine using a putty knife, trowel, or other applicator. Look for the new Tepox V and Ager Pens for a good solution to this problem! Tear the pouch at one end and squeeze out the Glaxs onto the stone application. It is designed not to be removed. Does Tenax have a product that can fill small pits on an installed countertop? Dealing with Tenax epoxy, you must always assume the resin as 100 parts in weight and the hardener in the quantity implied in the name itself. The 2nd way would be to use a chemical to make the stone look repolished. Tiger is formulated specifically for use on the edges of resined exotic stones when matching the resined top to the unresined edge. Depending on the kind of stone, the color of the stone, the severity of the etch, Tenax can offer several different products to assist in getting a polished look back. Absolutely. Steel Rods were the original rodding material. Is Tenax Hydrex a good sealer for honed Carrara marble kitchen counters? Keep in mind that Standard ager does however penetrate better on polished surfaces. Tenax has Diamond, Silicon Carbide, Filiflex, and Airflex Brushes. 12 Months from manufacture production date for unopened containers. Uniblack 1 will intensify the black in some dark material and repair certain imperfection ( natural or manmade ). Do not use the adhesive. Preparation is the biggest downfall to steel rods. Why do I need uniblack 2 or can I just reapply Uniblack1? Government regulations require that all corrosive and flammable materials be properly labeled for air shipments. Followed by Airflex 120-220-300. When is the best time to apply ager on the edge, before or after polishing? Its impossible to say with the many variables that are encountered in an outdoor application. Tenax has done exhaustive testing for the perfect combination of rodding and adhesive. 2) What is the temperature of the air and stone? The spray may allow for a finer mist and less waste. We reckoned to ALWAYS try the product on a hidden piece of stone to make sure your customer like the final look and approve the wet effect. There are some clients who have used it and swear by it, but always be aware about the location of the stone and if possible make a test to make sure it doesnt fade away. By resining the stone, a factory or quarry can improve the quality of the B and C grade material to A grade allowing greater yield out of the mountain. Yes Ager or Ager Tiger can be applied to all these finishes. To laminate granite Tenax recommend different products: If an epoxy is preferred the product of choice is the Epoxy Resin Strong Edge. How much pressure should I use with the Filiflex and Airflex brushes? Above this temperature the glue will start to soften up and potentially lose its structural strength. I have a dark spot for some reason after the proseal. The formula is a proprietary secret recipe that our competition would love to get their hands on! i can not seem to get the circular pattern of my application marks to go away. What is the difference between Epoxy Gel and Micto ? It cures in about 15 minutes. If so what should I use? Can Tewax be removed by any daily cleaner and/or solvent. In view of the foregoing, epoxies cure at a much slower rate and are some of the strongest glues on the planet. Radial arms machine are usually best fitted with Frankfurt abrasives especially when you need to repolish marble slabs. As always you will need to test in a small inconspicuous area to make sure you like the effect it gives. Tenax used metal, fiberglass, and carbon fiber rodding using polyester and epoxy adhesives in a very controlled environment. We recommendcalling Tenaxtodiscuss your specific application and the brushes touse. After Pectro or Pectro black is applied make sure you seal Pectro with either Ager or Proseal to fix it on the material. The water droplet, designed specifically with the Crystal chemical makeup is designed to drastically slow the cure time, and heat, of the chemical reaction. The rods must be completely cleaned of oil, then use sandpaper to rough the surface to maximize adhesion, and also must use bolt cutters to be cut to the length required. The main difference is cure time: Rivo 15 as a gel time of 15 minutes in bulk(where the 15 comes in) and cures in about 90 minutes. Now using a felt buffing wheel work the paste over the surface applying pressure and allowing some of the moisture to dry in the paste and slowly generate some heat. In general it is a true statement to say that the faster the bonding, the less the strength of the adhesive. The major difference between the 2 is the Appearance. The recommended ratio is 70% ager to 30% Tepox V. Like any other pigments UV can really play an effect on how much the color is lost due to sun rays. It also allows very fragile stone that would simply fall apart come to market as it consolidates and strengthens the material. Lustro Italiano Cleaner will not hurt the surface of your stone. Do I need to have the exact ratio for epoxy glues or just get as close as I can? Both Tixoand knife grade Hare made with the same basic raw material. If Ager has been applied on the stone and excess has dried on the surface, unfortunately it is extremely difficult to remove. Apply on the area you need to repair with a nylon brush let it stay for 10 minutes and remove with 000 steel wool. Generally speaking you need to start using coarse grit abrasives to smooth out the stone or remove the polish and then start using finer abrasives until the right finish is obtained. Fixtop is very strong and ideal for vertical as well horizontal application. Also is very important that minimal pressure is applied both to get a better life out of the abrasives as well asallowing the tools to dig deeper into the stone. This heat turns the adhesive a yellow color. (LogOut/ I purchased Lustrous Italuano products from you and Ager and Telux from another company. These are considered hazardous materials. Has the can been opened? The Adhesive will cure on its own but at a much slower rate. Before I apply Tefill to fill a scratch how do I hide the light color in the scratch? It is really fast and is one of the strongest polyesters on the market. Uniblack 2 will maintain the result achieved with Uniblack 1. Knife grade H is the most popular Knife grade that is used around the world. There are 2 ways to work with a stone that has been etched. This allows the application of Crystal to be used in filling chips and holes as well as producing clear seams where a color is not preferred. Polyesters can sustain temperature of up to 212 degrees F without losing its characteristic. The absolute best combination was using carbon fiber rodding along with TenaxStrong Edge Epoxy adhesive. It is a knife grade consistency. In certain rare cases in some stones there is in fact a chemical reaction that can take place forming a discoloration of green or blue color. To break it apart you need a force of about 10 MPa or about 1450Psi. We manufacture some that are less affected by the sunlight but overall you can expect a yellowing effect due to sunlight. The sooner the Ager is removed after application, better results may be achieved. Telux is ideal to use in area that are hard to polish but receive very little use. What product is needed to fill a scratch on my countertops? In traditional polyesters using the white hardener, the chemical reaction is very fast and generates a lot of heat. It is made by a warm process, where after the glue has been made it moves freely in special tubes until it is poured in the cans. Can Tenax epoxies be used for underwater applications? The right ratio in weight between the glue and its catalyst is 3%. What is the application process for the travertine fill? Polyester and epoxy glues are 2 different families of products and have different applications. I would like to know what I could use to permanently glue stone to a pressed particle surface. In general, the faster a polyester chemical reaction occurs the more heat is generated and the more yellow an adhesive turns. I used Ager on my honed Virginia mist and love the look. Does cure time affect the strength of glue? Lustro Italiano cleaner was designed specifically with granite, marble, travertine, limestone, engineered stone, etc. First Mix the powder into a paste with water. Coloring paste are usually pre-mixed part A resin with the color oxides. Thanks! I have etched my stone. This allows the Crystal to cure slowly without as much heat. There are on the market a lot of different mesh and composition. 2) In a typical mountain of stone, there could only be 20% of A grade material, 30% of B grade material and 50% of C grade and worse material. When the mesh is applied on the back of the slab and is embedded with epoxy resin, it makes a slab much stronger when down force is pressed on the opposite side. However bonding strength depends a lot on the formulations and the reason why they were created is the most important feature as to the strength of the glue, not particularly the cure time. Add a little 3% hardener to a small amount ( table spoon ) of travertine filler. Also sine the Airflex andFiliflex have diamonds embedded they really just need to touch the surface to work. For epoxy resin the right Ratio is extremely important. Tepox V can be applied undiluted directly to the stone by wiping it on with a clean rag, painting it on with a brush or sponge. Best Choice is DOMO a 2 part Epoxy designed to stand extreme force and low temperature. On Vertical surfaces, we have applications that have weathered the elements for more than 5 years without needing a second application. Tenax makes different epoxy glues that will give you the strongest results when joining together 2 different pieces of stones. Ager is the best choice for polished surfaces as it has a special formula that allows greater penetration. The thicker mesh comes in 4 and 5 height and 30 meters long (100 ). White colored glue is a good product to use when trying to match some light color engineered stone. The absolute best combination was using carbon fiber rodding along with TenaxStrong Edge Epoxy adhesive. What is the best adhesive to use for fireplaces? Tenax manufactures different epoxies for different applications. What should I use? When using epoxy system for surface resin treatment instead, the ratios vary greatly. Tefill is CA or cyanoacrylate glue is a convenient package. If a polyester resin was to be used, the fiberglass would eventually peel off. It is made by a warm process, Tixo instead is made with a cold process. It is a good practice to use polyester coloring paste with polyester glues and epoxy coloring paste with epoxy glues only. Tixo is a little smoother H is a little thicker. No. If instead a transparent (water clear)glue is needed, then Tenax Strong Edgewould be recommended. The polishing powder is meant to remove super fine scratches and restore a high polish. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. How do I remove a green blossom or California blossom? Until recently there wasno safe effective way to remove Ager or Ager Tiger after it is cured. Some are better on marble,others are perfect forengineered stone, whileothersare designed specifically for granite applications. Crystal has a UV inhibitor inside. What sequence should I use? What should I use to restore a marble slab? Tenax has Ager, Pectro, Telux, Jet, Tewax. Absolutely, Tenax is the world leader in surface polishing, manufacturing many different type attachments available. I applied Ager in excess and it dried on the surface, how do I remove it? Using any of these is better than using nothing at all. What is the difference between Ager and Ager Tiger? Change). one hour with no results. Do not allow the paste to overheat but add a little more mixture as necessary. As usual we recommend applying ager, letting it sit on the surface for a couple of minutes and then remove all the excess with a clean rug or cotton cloth. Please advise as to a product that will bond the granite edges. Many things can change the shelf life of an adhesive. Usually when the sealer has cured and is inside the stone there is no transfer of molecules from the stone to the food if left on the counter. Our company does not usually do any lamination, we have a shower base that we need to laminate a piece of soapstone to the soapstone base. Rodding has proven to be a great way to substantially increase the strength of counter tops. This, in turn, allows for more stone production and lower prices for slabs. Additionally, they are also extremely strong. More pressure is justgoing to bend the bristles and shorten the life of the tool without any significant better result. The different formulation in Ager Tiger allows it to soak in the surface just enough to give the wet look and match the color of the surface with the edge. 2. If necessary you can use theUniversal color made with an epoxy resin in the polyester mixture but not the other way around. Should I use polyester or epoxy for rodding? In your particular application of honed carrara marble, we would recommend the Tenax PROSEAL, a super premium high grade sealer designed specifically for porous and honed stone, such as marble, travertine, limestone, etc. Ease of use? It can be used for laminating. Epoxies will work better in moist/wet environments. Yes epoxy can be colored with Universalcoloring paste or liquid pigments Tepox V. Liquid pigments Tepox V dissolve better in liquid epoxies . The best way is to use a small scale to weigh out the Crystal and apply the correct percentage of hardener. It is very difficult to glue to particle board. Both polyester and epoxies have been used for rodding purposes. It can also be easier to cut. This finish is a high gloss antique effect. Is Ager and Ager Tiger safe to use on a fireplace hearth? TENAX has several different types to be very specific to the stone its being applied to. Tenax Travertine Filler comes in 3 different shades: Buff, Brown, and Grey to color match the shades that travertine typically comes in. I have to correct an error on my question. What is the difference between polyester and epoxy glue? Tewax is a very strong wax that really bites into the surface. If Tenax regular Ager was to be used, its very thin viscosity will make it penetrate and soak deep into the stone, leaving the surface of the edge basically unchanged. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); H is the most popular Knife grade that is used around the world. The tiles are adhered really well with basic thinset. Uniblack 2 is the maintenance product after you apply uniblack 1 , Uniblack 2 is the equivalent of a liquid black wax. Would you recommend Polytenax for this application? I have a chipped edge on my countertops, what do I need to fix it? Exotic stones are created with a very different combination of materials that have a lot of micro fissures and natural porosity. Easy, fast, and mess free! Absolutely, Tenax makes several different attachments for many different machines and the Airflex and Filiflexcome in more than one shape. Tenax manufactures a semi-solid adhesive designed specifically to fill travertine. If this is not the case, acetone in some cases can remove the sealer but only if it is applied immediately after ager has been applied. Teluxis applied to the surface of the stone(for best applications this would be applied before the stone is installed so that the Telux can sit on the stone while drying). Mark, Once cured both epoxy and polyester glue can be submerged underwater. Under normal circumstances for inside jobs and used with proper application it will not. I have a multihead line machine. In these 3 instances, please use caution to not damage the surface of the stone. Proseal will not change the color of the marble. Where is the product stored? i buffed one top for appx. When dealing with polishing and repolishing we always recommend giving Tenax a call and speaking with one of our technicians whowill guide you through the steps and the best combination for your particular stone and application. It is possible to ship them by air when properly packed and only in certain amount depending on the hazmat classification. Should I use Tixo or H if I need a knife grade? Tenax Crystal , in flowing and knife grade consistency, was designed to create a very clear cure. Tenax carries the complete line of tooling, from the metal diamond tools, to the fine grain diamonds, to the regular polishers. Please contact Tenax and we will connect you with the nearest distributor that can provide the product as soon as possible. The cure time range from 8-15 minutes (there are some exceptions to this rule). Thassos is about 20% faster than Crystal. What is the best application process for the Tenax Polishing Powder? Epoxies are instead designed to be structural adhesives. i used tenax tewax on a polished concrete counter top. If Domo is exposed to sunlight, will it get brittle and fail? Epoxies have very different ratios depending on the chemical composition and formula. Its slightly alkaline formula will not etch marble and its degreasing property will leave the surface clean and streak free. Tenax has done exhaustive testing for the perfect combination of rodding and adhesive. Yes. Unfortunately if the stone will get moist or humid , the rod will eventually rust over time, giving way to liability issues in the long run. The problem are the edge pieces. I opened a can of adhesive and it was hardened up. In this way the brushes will find a uniform surface to work on and will have more grip. There are several things to check. Please try try the Tenax Fixtop for working on the edges. How do I get it back to look polished? I make stone sinks. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. And Im curious is telux ever used on the top of polished counters? It will enhance the color of the stone, fill in the rough texture of the surface, and create a polished look. Which one should I use? The question is: What are you looking for in a rod: Strength? Epoxies may be used in both indoor and outdoor applications since they are generally more elastic then polyesters. However now there is Tenax Ager Remover which is designed to remove the excess Ager left on the surface by over application or by allowing Ager or Ager Tiger to dry on the surface. What is the humidity where it is being stored? Depending on the specific application that you are needing, simply select the correct epoxy for that application. Or you may contact us at info@tenaxusa.com or call 1-800-341-0432. As a rule of thumb, the slower the rpm the better the Airflex and Filiflex can work. What is the difference between H polyester knife grade and Tixo polyester knife grade? Please contact Tenax at 1-800-341-0432 or email info@tenaxusa.com to find out the best product for your specific need. For Tenax epoxy systems the part A is always assumed to be 100 parts and the corresponding part needed in weight of part B is specified in the name of the product itself. Epoxy is a much stronger bond. Epoxies generally take 2 to 24 hours to cure. Its all according to the type machine you have. The 75 grams comes in 4 ,5 and 6 height rolls that are 100 meter long. The major difference between the 2 is the Appearance. Ager and Ager tiger are a special resin dissolved in a mixture of solvents. What should I do? This keeps the Crystal nice and clear after curing. Polyester cures more quickly, usually in about 15 minutes, is polishable, and colors easily. If an air shipment is necessary, Tenax can connect you with a distributor is approved to ship Tenax products by air. Both are structural strength epoxies. I have a radial arm machine. Can I apply a polyester adhesive to a wet stone?