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3 0 obj Use and application of any of the site's content is at the user's own risk. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. No worries, only thing to note is when the top coat was drying it looked like it was slighty bloomed, but once fully dry it's perfect. He was probably calling attention to it? I filled in the seams on my frame with All Metal filler and had it powder coated. zrexxer is right , just got off the phone with with advanced metal coatings in Oakland ca. You get what you pay for.. Jason. Aren't the parts that get powder coated supposed to conduct electricity? JavaScript is disabled. True, I think the flexing would break it free. I didn't even realize it was that old. This page was generated at 10:05 AM. I've found that JB Weld works the best for filling before powder coat. Location: eastern blowville heights, ohio. I used JB to fill a crack in an oil gallery on the head of my turbo car. Just make sure what ever metal filler your going to use, you apply, bake at a higher temp than the powder needs to be & then sand. There is a powder coat primer that is used to stop outgassing. stream What you should do is after getting your repair body work done cure it like it's got powder on it. Imagine doing plastic work on your car with tubes of filler the size of JB Weld tubes. I built 2 oil fired ovens - one was 8 x 8 x 12 with 8' extension panels to make 20' long and a small one about 3' cube inside, a spray booth with recirculating air dust evacuation and an air pulse system to keep the filters clean, a pre-treatment station, sandblasting and an overhead conveyor with a roundhouse style track selector.When I sold the business I moved my wood tools into the 30 x 50 shop, but the place is so full of "inventory" now that I can barely get around in it. endobj It all depends on the powdercoater.. Seriously though, why bumb a dead thread with nothing but periods? 6 Conifers in total, aerial dismantle to ground level and stumps removed too. Will the heat of powdercoat oven ruin the body filler or will the layer of Bondo prevent the powdercoat particles from coating evenly? <> We use Lab-Metal. Post before his was spam. He says his powdercoater told him to use it. So before having the outgassing bubbble up through your powder coat job you pre bake the part 1st burning off all the impurities. How bad are these imperfections. Project Update Section, Post Project Updates Here, Suspension Questions Chassis, Brakes, Shocks, Etc, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. You must log in or register to reply here. All times are GMT-6. A friend suggest using lead which I have masters over my 40 odd years of doing this but I am not sure as the baking temp issue but I think it would be ok. Carrying out routine maintenance on this White Poplar, not suitable for all species but pollarding is a good way to prevent a tree becoming too large for its surroundings and having to be removed all together. I can understand maybe using JB Weld on small areas but when your talking about having a show finish on a frame your talking a lot of filler, most of which is sanded down of course but a lot of filler none the less. x=r:?pfJJ0rU8gc'vjv7JD_vG'glmw( ) rrlQDwh I' 43J#ydfgStYS7Q9~flg/(3]\>T#Ul can they be brazed or built up with weld then smoothed out. Privacy Policy. Disclaimer: The ideas and methods described in this web site were developed under unique situations. % Sand the area smooth again. IKCHOTBOAT: Did those headers keep their color and coating once the engine had been fired up? Is it possible to powdercoat over a thin layer of Bondo? I found this stuff called lab-metal (. 5* highly recommended., Reliable, conscientious and friendly guys. I was in the powder coating business for a little over 3 years. Holds up very well. It has never chipped or lifted. I'd be a bit leery of putting body filler on a frame. I have been using it on powdercoated parts and I have not had a problem yet. I would hate to see a puddle of filler on the floor of his oven. I used an old electric stove for the curing and kept it outside on a dolley. You can sand and file lab metal.. I dumped the stove for more room but to get back to your question. On my pre-war car with flimsy frame what I did was use high build primer and sand it smooth, its held up fine but I could not fit my frame into my oven to powder coat it so I painted the frame. it7C^ Looking for a Tree Surgeon in Berkshire, Hampshire or Surrey ? Gassing Station | Bodywork & Detailing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff, 2022 Pistonheads Holdco Limited, All Rights Reserved, PistonHeads is a registered trademark of CarGurus Ireland Limited, Pistonheads Holdco Limited, c/o Legalinx Limited, 3rd Floor, 207 Regent St, London W1B 3HH, United Kingdom. No. As for using All Metal or JB weld on a show car frame, I won't take the chance. That was the 'Ironbox' Twins, Brenda and Shirley Weintraub, coming to you live from the ladies' room at Tubby's Drive-In. Heavily rusted or pitted frames, I would think, wouldn't look as nice when powder coated. They say the J B Weld holds up to the 400 degree temps needed for powdercoating. 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Well the problem I'll have with that BB is that I wanted to do the frame and that would mean baking the filler in the oven prior to powdercoating and the cost of JB wled might just sned me to the poor house.:sign0020: I know from using it ALL Metal will harden up just like regular bondo does I was just curious if it would handle the 400F temps of the power coaters oven. http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/labmetal.html, http://www.facebook.com/cary.urka.urkafarms, http://www.geocities.com/pinkcheese1/DSCF0022.JPG, If this is your first visit, be sure to It is expensive but it is the best thing to use.. Gonna spend money on powdercoating but use inferior product underneath so it will pop when they heat it up?? Chit Chat Area, Anything on your mind goes here. I had the same problem opted for body filler and urethane My "project truck" has turned into 'garage art' !!! Why did you bump a post that's 6 years old with just periods? | Reg. ;X~&=c3 L w\9uTPRL/>A~7VLBJZ~JDDS;hVFJ'lzF'd`#hf0PwGLC8FTQ&FE.9Jgy$qzr)yn\n"Z:5`$@PB$p2qw9x="ZkF),NVHcA8v+= FFop5 9StzZe= f^8y8zL;;.PT{Gs4n_;, R:"V)QN\PnDV)wPnB!qsangRoB=tIR@xyj5F~YvBX You are using an out of date browser. Restroit, outgassing is a burning off of gasses caused by moister or impurities in the part that is being powder coated. Come join the discussion about restoration, engine swaps, reviews, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I've got a Bike frame I want to have powdercoated, it's aluminium and has a dent in the down tube which I'd rather not see every time I ride it. I have done quite a bit of coating at home with some great results. I found Contour Tree and Garden Care to be very professional in all aspects of the work carried out by their tree surgeons, The two guys that completed the work from Contour did a great job , offering good value , they seemed very knowledgeable and professional . endobj Well I was at a guys garage this morning picking up some parts and we had a discussion about All Metal and powdercoating. It is high heat resistant..similar to JB weld but better..I have used it with great success on powdercoated parts.. Jason. Trailblazer 302 * Millermatic 212 * Syncrowave 180SD * X-Treme 12VS Feeder * Spoolmate 3035. use a special filler under powder coat. Don't forget to follow us on Facebook& Instagram. Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Silent_Orchestra, Aug 11, 2008. I have seen that stuff but wouldnt think it is any better than JB, I know it doesnt keep real well. I mentioned to him I heard it had to be pre-baked prior to powdercoating and he said he had heard that as well but not until after his frame was done. weld it full,or fill with jb weld ! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.neverseezproducts.com/labmetal.htm?gclid=CNnox_mE6rICFWWCQgodzXAAZQ. Powder Coating over Polyester Filler? Has anyone ever used All Metal filler on a surface of a part they had powder coated? endobj Brett said it has too be "highley heat resistant". but, um.. I just try to keep it as thin as possible, ad keep the surface clean. Darn itI did not win the free sample contest, how could that be that I did not win ? 4 0 obj No problem with lifting or cracking of the filler. If I read their directions and data sheet correctly they say that can be caused by off gassing during the oven process when powder coating, thats why they recommend 24 hours drying time. I would expect that most body fillers would crack and/or lose adherson when 'baked'. Yes, as long as the filler can take the heat, some can, some can't. Thank you., This was one of our larger projects we have taken on and kept us busy throughout last week. on some intercooler piping to fill in areas around welds. Garden looks fab. Unless JB has come out with a larger size I don't think it would be too practical. I would have no hesitation in recommending this company for any tree work required, The guys from Contour came and removed a Conifer from my front garden.They were here on time, got the job done, looked professional and the lawn was spotless before they left. 2 0 obj It's a LOT cheaper than the stuff designed for powder. BB said use primer. eastwood sells a metal impregnated body filler that they say can be powdercoated. If it's just cosmetic rust, just grind the oxide out and hit the divot with a welder. I think it dried at a different rate perhaps but dont be alarmed if you see it. Some cast metals have alot of impurities like cast aluminum or cast iron and can outgas bad. This way if it outgases it wont screw up the finish coat. Copyright Contour Tree and Garden Care | All rights reserved. I think that you would have a problem. Best just to talk to your powdercoater and ask what he recommends. He showed me his frame which was done 4 years a go with All Metal and it looked great. It still needs to be pre baked for shrinkage and out gasing but does work much better then All Metal. your primer coat must be baked then the final color coat aplied and baked. Covering all aspects of tree and hedge workin Hampshire, Surrey and Berkshire, Highly qualified to NPTC standardsand have a combined 17 years industry experience. I've always had way to much outgasing problems with All Metal. Since these situations cannot be duplicated, you may get different results. \WZ_(dn%8x@=E*9F5HZYX)EDxVe#V[uw&f|RX=C0 7*{4?([UjH91f,U! Keep the heat to a minimum. The fun part was building the shop, the equipment and tools. I knew going in that it was mindless work just like any painting job, but my intention was to build all the equipment and get it operating then sell the business when it was profitable. <>/XObject<>/ExtGState<>/Pattern<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> I used some of the Eastwood filler (Lab Metal?) It says it can handle temps up to 400F and thats what my guy says his oven run at. THAT IS THE STUFF THEY RECOMMEND FOR THEIR POWDER COATING SET UP. There were a few small areas where it bubbled slightly but for the most part looks great. What do Boyd Coddington, Chip Foose, etc. yG}11588E~@40hOttr97J7>F(lmVcLJQ0E=$c>%8p7E5?X28@&N_-`|!9Kc|=6#xxU}D)<>ex{#/Bm_bQ#Q{1kb{k2xRkCY,{DQ',5/p|+oC!u=}2$FmrhkdNN_}9,ctg)x&q0^N8sN,LHifquonNXj7Z1ZSY@LRg 5!7t0Cy@ YP{5(C!c$;B:g ]H>@ZmAPL]=J'm_;S.%Qo I>s'|o It has been under the car for almost 10 years and still looks good. It came through the baking process fine but after some use it started to show brown shadows through the yellow powder coat. Holy shit. Personally I do patch welds for frame work, and paint the skin (which has body filler). For merely cosmetic reasons. At $42 a gallon I really want to test it first. JB is good to 400 You might be best to ask the coating guy first. This Willow had a weak, low union of the two stems which showed signs of possible failure. do when they come across a frame like this? If he gets his oven over about 400 it will pop.. My coater gets stuff up to 450 then down to 350 to cureJB doesn't work for meJason. <> JavaScript is disabled. Does anyone know of some sort of body filler that can be used on a part to be powder coated? Why don't you go to the local bone yard and get valve covers and a pan from any late Olds V8. Powder coat is the business were in. If you get late 307 valve covers, they only have five holes for bolting it on but you can drill the places to use them on your 425 heads. I used a product sold by Eastwoods, the same place I got my powders from. This work will be carried out again in around 4 years time. There are fillers that can handle the heat like Lab Metal. Open to all models including Belair, 210, 150, Sedans, and Nomads. Then you know the powdercoating will stick. I would assume their frames are powder coated, just like others. Ask the powder coaters you intend to use. I am not sure how hot powder coating is and it may need to be bare metal for it to adhere properly. Very pleased with a fantastic job at a reasonable price. He too has never seen it done but has heard it will work. It can also be used as a primer servicer to fill in small divots or scatches then sanded smooth before coating with powder. They all fit from 64 330's to late 307's. I've seen guys using rhino lining for pick up beds on frames. Contour Tree & Garden Care Ltd are a family run business covering all aspects of tree and hedge work primarily in Hampshire, Surrey and Berkshire. If so, what powder did you use? Held up just fine, considering the heat and obvious constant oil barrage. Copyright 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Due to being so close to public highways it was dismantled to ground level. The substrate has to be conductive. a friend recommended JB quick, claiming that it holds up to heat better. A fairly common practice with Lombardy Poplars, this tree was having a height reduction to reduce the wind sail helping to prevent limb failures. Y?(-3Jw9h{l]4l][-A]}-A{nst[x9-t{u(^rAp. Let it dry over night before sanding it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. check out the. No plans on cutting the frame! JB weld does seem to work. I am on several forums for old car enthusiasts where this has been discussed and everyone is happy with the results. <>>> This Scots Pine was in decline showing signs of decay at the base, deemed unstable it was to be dismantled to ground level. f^9`aQ\""Aj{Vcc-C "quN"u 9$|nZTf'@und){b8=bG;Xp1Iz!DpBINd}h-,0Bzh$Og9Hb[6Jb Including all big blocks, all sheet metal is interchangable. can you sand lab metal or JB weld to match the existing substrate? Why choose Contour Tree & Garden Care Ltd? I would weld up all the bad spots and grind smooth then powder coat. It hides any small imperfections like pitting pretty well. I know for a fact I've seen Boyd's group fill in weld areas on their frames. This looks like the ticket, if you look at the Hi-Temp version they say to use it right out of the can and there is no mention of pre-heating or baking like the other fillers or as BB mentioned. ", http://www.neverseezproducts.com/labFWWCQgodzXAAZQ, If this is your first visit, be sure to Terms of Service. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Personally I use JB Weld for my powder coated parts that need filling. Did you have anything to add or just being a troll? "My work is not perfect.and possibly, neither is my company..but, both are FREE if you need a hand.". I attribute this to the 300+F internal temps at the outlet of the turbo compressor section plus heat from the exhaust manifold. %PDF-1.5 Sorry, not yelling, just bumped the caps lock key. ). . JB Quik is garbage, stick with the Weld. 1 0 obj Your steps are correct. The only difference is the 60's Toro pans are 6 quart capacity with a windage plate inside, but you don't have to use it for the pan to work. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.. http://www.eastwood.com/hi-temp-lab-metal-24-oz.html. I'm with Big Blue. There's no guaranteeing that powder will adhere to non metallic surfaces anyway, the powder is shot on in the presence of an electrostatic charge applied to the metal. Just been down this very route.JB weld will take it, not the quick drying stuff just the normal variety. The owner/operators are highly qualified to NPTC standards and have a combined 17 years industry experience giving the ability to carry out work to the highest standard. ~[xW sty*F(-~PZxWWAi]tH@i]est[xWst[xWNx/(we]"S=GW.]B+ZxW(wt[xiJ Do they sell it in anything bigger than the dinky little tubes though? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. check out the. I only us that stuf on small areas. What about "All Metal? It works like regular body filler and has alot of metal in it. A forum community dedicated to 1955, 1956, and 1957 Chevy owners and enthusiasts. Works great. ozJD@}JvmZE*@b1yjM+WCG`'nx3pR~Ma#O46n6={\ecVq>{F3Jv]uNg/mG6x3TxJ>`C9)7aOCE`63LyS#C_V_#,l0;:vmd=X5k T0v&Vz S10 9M11D\N. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned J B Weld. My powdercoater recommended using All-Metal, an aluminum filled bondo. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Can you powder coat, say a car frame, that has been covered in spots with body filler (due to heavily rusted areas)?